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Life
& Death:
Rush
Limbaugh on Terri Schiavo:
"Why
does Congress need to get involved in this?"
March 18, 2005
RUSH: Let's throw some gasoline on this,
shall we, as we near the end of the program, because I just have some observations to
make. After listening to the callers we've had today, after listening to myself, which is
always a pleasure. I love hearing myself say what I say, as do you, and so I've been
thinking and reacting to all these things I've heard and some of the things even that I
have said. Like this last guy who called from Indianapolis. Everybody's been nice on the phones today so don't
misunderstand. I'm not lashing out at anybody, but he said, "Hey, the relationship
between a husband and wife is sacred and what are the parents getting involved here
for?" Well, you could say that the parents are not intruding or infringing on any
relationship between husband and wife. What they're trying to do is save their daughter's
life. What's wrong with that? You know, barring any evidence at all beyond the husband's
representations -- I mean, he's got a girlfriend now and a few kids with her, I believe.
Somebody said that earlier today. Why shouldn't the parent fight for the life of their
child? And this is another thing.
People say, "Why is Congress getting involved in this? What's
Congress got to do with this? It's a local case. It's an individual case."
Can I take you back to our founding
documents and particularly the Declaration of Independence?
We are all "endowed by our Creator with
certain inalienable rights. The right to life (clearing throat), liberty, pursuit of
happiness." You could make the argument that it certainly is a charge of government
to defend and protect life, given that this forms one of the building blocks of the
foundation of our country, and I find it fascinating here. I've studied this. I've been
watching this particularly intensely today as interests outside of the Schiavo family and the Schindler
family get involved in this, and I am sorry to say this, but I can't find a liberal
Democrat anywhere who's standing up for this woman's right to live. Now, I said I was
going to throw some gasoline on this. But, it seems to me that it's Republicans that are
doing what they can to protect this woman's life and that takes me back to another case
involving the federal government and Florida, and that's Elian Gonzales. This case reminds me --
and just in terms of the sides drawn here in the courts, you know, who is opposing who,
who believes what -- of the Gonzales case.
- I mean, the issues
are completely different but the sides are the same. Some of us in this country
instinctively defend life and liberty. The other side doesn't.
When it came to the liberty of Elian
Gonzales, Janet Reno and the Clinton administration sided with who? Fidel Castro and
ignored the wishes of the mother and brought some guy up they said was his father and
shipped him back down to this little gulag called Cuba, where we just learned that home
makers are going to be given by the state rice cookers, even though there's a rice
shortage because of a drought and there's no electricity to use the rice cookers. And we
know that the rice cookers were given not to feed people but because there was a black
market being developed in rice cookers and the state in Cuba cannot handle the black market entrepreneurism. So
they'd send a little boy off to tyranny; they would end this woman's life with apparently
no compunction. It's just interesting to see the sides, and the battle lines drawn here,
and it's amazing to me who you can always find standing up for life and liberty, and it
just happens to be conservatives and Republicans that do it. I mean, if I'm wrong, if
somebody can show me where the Democrats in Washington, the Democrats anywhere, are
speaking up about this, I'll be glad to correct myself.
Liberals
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RUSH: ... All right. Here's where we are.
I've got a Washington
Post editorial I was to bounce off of today in discussing the Schiavo case. Now,
a Florida judge is going to hold a hearing at 12:30 eastern time, about 21 1/2 minutes from now, to make
yet another determination of this. A one
o'clock deadline today to remove the
feeding tube from Terri Schiavo. US Senate Republicans sought to keep Terri Schiavo
alive today with an invitation to bring her to Washington. You talk about a nuclear option. Mike Enzi issues a request to make her a witness, along with her
husband, which protects her. So we can use this nuclear option out there to (interruption)
well, it is. It's sort of a nuclear option here, trying to get around some of the
roadblocks that have been placed in front of her parents. I've seen national polls at
least flashed on television screens today, and if you're to believe them, the vast
majority of the American people believe that a spouse should be the one making the
decision here, not the parents, and it's overwhelmingly in support of removing the feeding
tube. This, I think, is a result of the decades-long effort we've made to de-legitimize
life. We've de-legitimatized life in the womb and we say, "Well, that life is not
going to have a good life." So based on our own convenience we have abortion and
based at the end of life now, based on our own convenience, "Ah, nobody would want to
live this way, we don't want to take care of people this way," so we decide who lives
and dies based on our own convenience now. And it's worked in terms of the public opinion.
I'm sure that these people think that the right thing to do is pulling the feeding tube is
based on they can be compassionate for Terri Schiavo to do this, because after all, who
would want to live in her current state? But, of course, then much greater concerns,
long-term ramifications, the desensitization of the sanctity of life. Stuff doesn't happen
overnight, and it hasn't happened overnight. It's been going on for years and years and
years and years. We're more and more comfortable now with doctors determining who is fit
to live and who is not. We all know the circumstances involving abortion, and as these
things multiply and continue over a number of years, it gets easier and easier and easier
to disregard the sanctity of life and have that sanctity replaced with something that
assuages our guilt when we decide that somebody's not fit to live for one reason or
another. We say, "Well, it's the best thing." It makes it easier to live with
the decisions that we make. You know, it's been a very slowly evolving plan. For the life
of me, I don't understand it. I don't understand what the left has
to gain with all this, but I don't understand much about what the left does, at any
rate. I guess simplest way to explain this here, the House and Senate cannot agree on
legislation regarding Terri Schiavo. The Senate passed the Enzi request for her to become
a witness. The House used broader language in legislation specific to Terri Schiavo, and
they don't want to make this -- the House doesn't want to make this just for a specific
single case, thinking that that would set a precedent for other specific case
midnight-hour events in Congress. They're going to try to get together next week on this,
try to get an injunction, a 10-day injunction on the removal of the feeding tube.
As I said, Senator Mike Enzi has subpoenaed Terri Schiavo to testify before his committee,
and that means that she would have legal protections prohibiting the removal of the tube.
They've also gone to the US district attorney to ask for a temporary restraining
order to stop the removal of the tube, and if a judge grants it, that gives her at least a
day, perhaps 10 days and that would give Congress more time to act. The reason the House
and Senate were not able to come to agreement on this yesterday is the House recessed for
their Easter break after they passed their legislation. The Senate had not yet, so they
weren't able to get together and sort of work out a compromise. Now, the Washington
Post today I think is a good way to bounce off of this. I want to read portions of
their editorial today and respond to it. It's entitled "The Schiavo case." And
it starts this way: "Congress does not generally smile these days on the power of the
federal courts to review alleged constitutional errors by state courts. In 1996 it imposed
significant procedural barriers for inmates who want their claims examined -- even inmates
who might face execution and those who might be innocent. The idea was that the national
government should defer to state courts and not seek to micromanage their justice systems
-- even in matters of life and death." Now, what's the first thing that strikes you
as you read this? The US Supreme Court overruling the states twice in the last 18 months.
The Texas sodomy law and the juvenile death penalty law. The
US Supreme Court said (raspberry) to states' laws and just said, "You're behind the
times. You're going to find international sources, both custom, social, and legal, in
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Now, here's
the Washington Post all upset that this is being done in this case. "Except,
apparently, in the case of Terri Schiavo, the Florida woman in a persistent vegetative state whom the Florida courts, after careful consideration, decided
would not want to live under such circumstances. With Ms. Schiavo's feeding tube scheduled
to be removed today, Congress sprang into action to pass legislation granting the federal
courts the power to review the state court judgments that would let her die. (The Florida legislature is, for the second time, also acting to
force her to continue living.)"
Note the language here. "That would let her die, would force her to live."
That's exactly my point. Let her die, force her to continue living. "On Wednesday
night the House of Representatives passed a bill to let 'an incapacitated person' -- or
someone who cares about him or her -- go to federal court whenever a state court
'authorizes or directs the withholding or withdrawal of food' and when there is no
undisputed living will. The Senate passed a narrower bill yesterday that would deal with
Ms. Schiavo's case alone -- allowing her parents, who wish to keep her alive, a shot at
the federal courts. Both bills make a mockery of the professed conservative devotion to
the sovereignty of states and the integrity of their courts. There is no great
constitutional question to litigate here. Nonetheless, the broader House bill would create
endless opportunities to involve the federal courts in heart-rending end-of-life struggles
within families. And the Senate bill is nothing more than a warrantless intervention by
the national legislature in a specific case that -- no matter how much members might
dislike the result -- is no business of Congress." Of course, steroid hearings in
baseball are. The closing paragraph here in the post editorial. "The message to state
courts is that they can do as they will with accused criminals and rely on federal law to
shield them from review, but Congress will pull out the stops to overturn rulings --
however local -- that members don't like. That's not how the federal system is supposed to
work." Folks, I can't wait to tackle this.
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Once again, the Washington Post editorial on the Terri Schiavo case today focuses
on conservatives and conservative hypocrisy here in coming to her defense via the federal
system. The Washington Post editorial probably speaks for many on the left. It
underscores how liberals cherry-pick morality and distort the views of conservatives in
order to advance their own priorities. I mean, when you get right down to it, the left
doesn't believe in state authority either. They're totally willing to overturn it whenever
it suits their needs. They believe in judicial authority at all levels of government. They
believe that judicial authority overrides Congressional authority. They selectively read
the constitution, and they ignore the explicit authority of Congress to rein in the
judiciary, which Congress has the total constitutional right to do that. They argue for
federal supremacy whenever they believe it will buttress their causes. So here we have a
case where the federal legislature, the Congress, trying to come to the aid of a state
legislature. In other words, the representatives of the people, elected representatives of
the people, are struggling to address judicial decisions that will result in the death of
this woman.
In fact, not just this woman, but
the thousands and thousands of people who are or who will be in a similar state in the
future. So one of the Congressional proposals is to empower the federal courts to consider
the issue which are subject to the jurisdiction of Congress. Now, that's not to say that
the federal courts will rule properly either. Who knows? But this is a legitimate
constitutional act of Congress to do this. And it's time that we understand how our
government's supposed to work and reject efforts to mischaracterize both what the
Constitution says and what we as conservatives interpret the Constitution to say. I mean,
the idea that the judiciary has trump power over Congress, that the judiciary has the last
word, that's something that's evolved, folks, but it's not constitutional because the
judiciary is not elected. The Congress is. They are the elected representatives of us, the
people, and they certainly have the power to rein in the judiciary. Now, I don't know who
writes these editorials for the Post, but it certainly would help if they were
intellectually honest. First off, nobody has said -- certainly not me -- that the federal
courts have no role in our system of government. Which is what this editorial implies.
Clearly, federal courts do. But here's the difference: That role that federal courts have
in our system does not include setting policy for the nation, which is what has
unfortunately evolved. In particular, judges are not free to impose
their personal policy preferences on the nation. They do it because nobody stops them. But
they are not free to do it. Federal judges have a say on what the Constitution means, but
they don't have the only say for all purposes. There are other branches of government that
have constitutional powers as well.
Now, conservatives also know, because we read the Constitution, our federal elected
representatives have the power to establish the lower federal courts to determine the
jurisdiction of those courts, and this may come as a shock to somebody, and to decide the
jurisdiction of the Supreme Court, except for some specific powers granted by the
Constitution to the Supreme Court, but they're not relevant to this discussion. So if
Congress acts to empower the federal courts to hear this case, Congress is acting within
its constitutional authority. And yet here's the Washington Post all raving and panicky,
"Oh, no how do you do this, usurping power, this is typical of what conservatives
want to do," blah, blah, blah. It's not. This is constitutional. Now, if you want to
say that conservatism is typically constitutional, fine. I'll raise my hand and say,
"I'm guilty. I am proud to say that constitutionalism equals conservatism." Now,
the fact here is that the Florida legislature and the governor have already acted
to prevent the feeding tube from being removed from Terri Schiavo, but the state courts
ordered it removed anyway. I didn't read any concern by the Washington Post about the
proper role of the Florida courts, did you? I only read that according to the
editorial, the state courts have the final say.
You see, the liberals believe in government by judiciary whether we're talking about
federal courts or state courts. Not a word about the will of the people or the right of
the representative branches to act, judges are king whether they be on the federal or
state variety, particularly when they rule as liberals would have them rule. The problem
we face in the country here, folks, is that the left and the courts have created a culture
of death. From abortion on demand, including partial-birth abortion to embryonic stem cell
research, assisted suicide, and our elected representatives at the state and federal level
are struggling with ways to deal with this. Because we have all come to accept the fact
that when a court says something, that that says it all. And, of course, you know, we do
have this culture of death. We are becoming more and more tolerant with killing people at
the beginning and end of life. It's going to somewhere descend to the middle of life at
some point. And we've all fooled ourselves into believing that we're doing it for them,
when it's actually being done for our convenience and our desires in the vast majority of
cases. Now, there's a constant effort by liberals to distort the meaning of federalism,
too. They argue for states' rights when state courts are issuing orders they like, like
when the Massachusetts Supreme Court ruled on same-sex marriage. They had no problem with
that. Or when the Florida courts ordered the feeding tube removed from Terri
Schiavo. They ignore intentionally the fact that the legislatures in these states are
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In Massachusetts, the Supreme Court ordered the legislature to come
up with a law on same-sex marriage. It's the other way around: Legislatures, the elected
representatives of the people, pass these laws and then it goes on up to the Supreme
Court, unfortunately, to determine whether it's constitutional or not. So these state
legislatures face the same kind of tyranny. They're being overruled. In Gore/Bush 2000,
the Florida Supreme Court routinely ignored state law on election counting, writing their
own rules from the bench as they were hearing these appeals, and the Florida legislature was sitting there twiddling its thumbs
saying, "What are we here for?" So let's put it this way: If we adopt the logic
of the Washington Post and the left when it comes to cultural issues in
particular, the state legislatures are at the mercy of the state and federal courts, which
means that we, the people, are at the mercy because these courts impose an agenda on the
people that the people of these states do not want. And if Congress -- the other
representative legislative body of the people -- tries to intervene and help a state
legislature under siege, we are then lectured that this violates federalism, even though
Congress has the constitutional power to do this. None of this would even be an issue if
education in this country were just adequate. If it were just adequate when it comes to
teaching the Constitution. But it's not, and that's one of the problems with the left
having control over education.
So in short, the radical cultural agenda imposed on society should be left untouched by
any of the elected branches of government. That's what the left believes. And the reason
they believe it is because that's the only way they can get their radical leftist agenda
woven into the fabric of our society. Precisely because they can't win on these issues at
the ballot box or in state legislatures, barring a few exceptions. They have performed an
end run and done so utilizing the courts. And, by the way, folks, it's not as if anyone is
being forced to take care of Terri Schiavo, either. Her parents want to assume
responsibility for her care. I mean, there's a party here that's clearly willing to step
in and be inconvenienced, if you will. This is not a small issue. No one is saying that
her so-called husband has to continue to care for her or pay her bills. He's fighting for
the right to end her life, which the courts have granted, and it's chilling. And I know a
lot of you disagree with this. A lot of you think, "Come on, Rush, this is the
husband. It's his decision. She wouldn't want to live this way." Well, I don't know
that anybody's ever ascertained that as fact. We're just assuming it and projecting our
own circumstances as being hers and what would we do. But she never said herself. Now,
this reminds me of a case I remember in Oakland, California. I was working in Sacramento back in the '80s and I'll tell you about it when we
come back.
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Folks, keep in mind also here, and I
think this is a fundamental aspect of this, Terri Schiavo is not on
life support systems. She is receiving nutrition through a feeding tube. Now, just
look for a second how far we have fallen in just a few decades. Look how this whole
question has degenerated from questions of whether extraordinary means of life support for
terminally ill patients will be provided, to now whether we will provide basic nutrition
to an incapacitated person. I mean, this is a tremendously dramatic change. There has to
have been here a serious devaluation of life on the left, backed up by court decisions,
that a major portion of the public is concerned about. That's why so much interest in this
case, and that's why Congress is getting involved. Abortion in this country is now viewed
as a choice between life and a lifestyle.
No longer does the left even bother to argue viability. They support partial-birth
abortion. That is, aborting babies that can live can live outside the woman's womb. What
about our putative next president here, Queen Hillary? I mean, she claims to be concerned
about abortion all of a sudden. She claims to be moving to the center on cultural issues,
yet I don't think she said anything about the Terri Schiavo case. She says nothing about
partial-birth abortion, and the reason is precisely because she embraces this mentality,
but wants you to believe that she doesn't. Now, as far as I'm concerned, there is no more
serious issue in this country than how our society views life. You don't have liberty
without life, folks. Terri Schiavo did not leave a living will. There's no evidence of any
kind that she wanted to die under these circumstances, and what are we talking about here?
Do we want the government to allow people to be starved to death? We're not talking here
about heroic means of life support. Even if she lacks a higher brain function, she'll
certainly suffer if she's starved to death. Two weeks, it takes. Should we stop feeding
Alzheimer's patients? They don't know what's going on. They're not aware of anything. They
can't feed or think for themselves. Should we just, you know, pull the tube? Not feed
them? What about Parkinson's patients? Where does this stuff end?
The way we're going now, these people don't have a chance because all these decisions are
being made based on the convenience to the living, disguised as compassion for the
soon-to-be killed. Where do we draw the line when it comes to basic care for the infirm
and the otherwise helpless? The Washington Post editorial doesn't even bother to weigh in
on that nor do very other members of the left. Instead, they play this pseudo-federalism
game, which is not only intellectually dishonest, but as I explained earlier, it's
tremendously callus. Now, I just want to tell you a story here to illustrate to you this
is not a unique case, it's not new. It involves life. Now, this case, the Schiavo case, is
not about abortion, but it's all about life here. The case I'm going to tell you about is
incredible. It's about abortion. I'm going to take you back, this is 1984, '85. I was
working in Sacramento. There were a couple living together, were not
married. They were in Oakland, in their 20s or 30s. The woman in the relationship
was seven months pregnant when she had a brain aneurysm. They rushed her to the hospital
and kept her alive so that the fetus could be brought to term. Whereupon the parents
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Now, the
problem here was that there was a father involved. He was not a husband, but he was a
father. And he steadfastly said, "I want this baby. It's mine. We made this baby
together. This will be a legacy, of sorts. I will care for, my family will care for and
raise this child." The feminists got involved in this case out there and it went to
court. For the feminists, this was a huge issue. I mean, the last thing the feminists
wanted in this case was for the judge to decide in the case of the father because that
would destroy the whole concept of a woman's right to choose. Now, the woman in this case
was in a coma. She wasn't choosing anything. It was her parents. But the feminists simply
could not allow this child to be born, even though it was already seven months along,
because that would totally destroy the political aspect of their cause. And this fight
raged and raged. I'm sorry, I don't remember what the outcome of this case was. It would
be easy enough to look up. But it's not the point. The point is that there was a culture
of death then. And in this case, it was amazing. The woman could be kept alive, in a
hospital, and the baby could be born, even though she was brain-dead. Father, not the
husband, wanted that to be the case but he was fought by the girl's parents, the woman's
parents, and feminist lawyers. And it was just stunning.
I thought it was one of the greatest illustrations of the politics behind abortion that
I'd ever seen. And it was clear what was at stake for the feminists here. But the point of
it all is that this is how this culture of death gets going. And I think the parents said,
"Well, we don't want this child. It will be too painful. It will remind us of our
daughter." They didn't want it and, of course, they had legal standing as family
because they were parents and this guy was not married to the woman. I think the guy lost
the case. I'm not actually sure. I don't think the baby was born, now that I think about
this. But still, the point is that we have a situation here, should we stop feeding
Alzheimer's patients when we can't determine whether they can feed or think for
themselves? What about Parkinson's patients? Once we become comfortable with all this, and
this has been my concern about all of this from the get-go, aside from one specific case.
It's what the result of a specific case and then multiplied by similar case outcomes can
cause to happen with the fabric of a society. And if you're like me, I mean, you can't
have liberty without life. And if we're going to become cavalier about life, and if we're
going to determine on our own selfish terms who lives and who dies, I guarantee you that
more people are going to die under the guise of compassion and understanding for them when
actually it's not about them at all. We're just telling ourselves that to make ourselves
feel better or assuage our guilt.
We are going
to be determining who lives and dies based on how much trouble it's going to be to us if
somebody lives and dies. But in terms of the trouble aspect here, no life support systems,
just a feeding tube. Parents are willing to assume the responsibilities of care and
so forth. It's not going to burden the state. It's not going to burden the Hospice. It's
not going to burden the hospitals. It's not going to take up a bed that could better be
used by some more deserving patient, which is another thing happening in hospitals, thanks
to healthcare insurance rates being so high. Need those beds. You need turnover in there.
One of the ways you turn over beds is to pull feeding tubes away from patients. Well, I
mean, folks, I've seen this. I don't want to get into details, but I've seen it up close.
There's no question that the pressure on healthcare systems leads us also to this kind of
thinking. But in this case, there is no such pressure because the parents are willing to
assume care and we're not talking about expensive life support systems. This is just a
feeding tube. So we got a two week death here of starvation. It's
called compassion. She wouldn't want to live this way. And, in the meantime, we
can't drill up in Alaska because it might upset some caribou, might upset
some polar bears or whatever else. We can't dig for oil because it might upset a couple of
trees. We certainly can't be inhumane or unkind or even embarrass terrorists, but when it
comes to people like Terri Schiavo, they may as well not exist. Just may as well not
exist.
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RUSH:
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You're up first today. Hello...
CALLER: ... I can't imagine what's going on with this and the
woman is going to starve to death. This isn't a woman who needs a machine to breathe. This
isn't anybody who -- you know, it's not a matter of just, you know, a quick death. This is
going to be a long, drawn-out, could take weeks. She's going to lose weight. Her kidneys
are going to shut down. I mean, this isn't something that's going to -- that just like get
out of our way because it's inconvenient. Terri Schiavo is going to be like a judge is
going to order her to die, to starve to death and they don't have the guts to give her
what they call a compassionate death of a lethal injection.
RUSH:
Well,
yes, the starving to death is considered the compassionate way of doing this. But no, see,
here's the thing. This is, I think, the rationalization for it. We remove the feeding
tube, she can't feed herself. We haven't killed her. She just dies.
We are going to allow her to die. I love this from the Washington Post: We remove
the feeding tube. She can't feed herself. So she's allowed to die. Those who object to the
removal of the feeding tube are forcing her to live. Now, that little passage from the
Washington Post pretty much sums up where we've gotten here on this culture of death
business. But, of course, there are other concerns here. She does have a husband and her
husband states that this is what he wants, it's what she would want. The problem is, she
hasn't said this. I'll tell you what, folks, you know, I've been talking and particularly
in relationship to this Ashley Smith involvement with Brian Nichols and had a discussion
last night about it. I got to tell you a story when we lighten up here a little bit later
on, about this dinner party I had last night. It was funny. We were discussing at this
dinner party last night the whole Brian Nichols and Ashley Smith circumstance, and I made
the point to the august gathering at the dinner table that -- because we're all trying to
figure out what happened and why it worked. And there were some critics of Ashley Smith. I
couldn't believe it. One person last night even said, "I think she was raped."
And I practically stood up and started making a speech there at the dinner party. I said,
"That's not what happened. I mean, you're projecting your own emotion into what you
would have done had this guy captured you." You would have been angry, but she was
scared to death, trying to save her life, wants to see her daughter. So what she did, she
told him what she wanted. She turned the tables. She humanized herself. She talked about
her family. She talked about her daughter, talked about herself, made herself something
other than just an object hostage.
So anyway, she told him what she wanted. And now, this is curious. If you don't want to
become a Terri Schiavo someday, you better have one of these living wills that specifies
what you want. If you do not want to live under such circumstances or if you only want to
live so long, give medical science so long to revive you, you better state it, because you
never know what's going to happen. If the patient in the case, if there were a legal
written document, a record here, it would be academic. But it's not. So we've got other
people assuming to know what she would want, when nobody can know because she can't tell
us. So once again, when we assume that we think we would know what she'd want to do, we
have no idea. We're simply projecting what we think we would do in the same circumstance,
and assuming she's just like us. But we don't know that. So
the way the authorities and the left and everybody else who is in favor of this gets
around the aspect of killing, "We're not killing, we're just removing the feeding
tube. She can't feed herself. She's going to die." That's pretty convoluted and
twisted. That's putting yourself into a pretzel here to absolve yourself of any guilt in
this situation, or circumstances.
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RUSH: We go
to Abiquiu,
New Mexico, and Chris. Welcome, sir. Nice to have you.
CALLER: Well, thank you very much. Incidentally, Terri Schiavo is on pain medication as are all people that are in her
condition right now. What's fascinating to me is the hysterical hyperbole that's flying
from the right wing on this. Apparently now, if you remove someone from a ventilator, what
you're really doing is smothering that person to death and you're a murderer. Or, if you
remove someone from a heart pump, what you're really doing is you're maliciously forcing
that poor person to suffer a heart attack and you're a murderer. Come on, Rush. No, she
can't feel euphoria. Neither can she feel pain.
RUSH: Wait a minute, Chris. I
haven't said any of that. And I don't know where you're hearing it or where you're reading
it or what have you, but I'm not --
CALLER: What you're saying --
RUSH: I said the other day there extremists on both sides of this way out there, and I've
not gone to what I think is an extreme anyplace, but there are extremists everywhere out
there.
CALLER: Well, no, and I'm not an extremist either.
RUSH: You know, that's still not my question to you, what does what conservatives say
about this have to do with your opinion on it? I mean, conservatives may be hypocritical,
they may have some kooks, crackpots out there trying to define death in the manner in
which you expressed it and so forth, but what does that have to do with what you think
about it?
CALLER: Well, what I think about it is I think that the whole
situation from the right is pandering to Protestant Christians in this country.
RUSH: So what? What's that got to do with it? You think the woman ought to die so the
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CALLER: No, I think the woman ought to die because she has no life to live. I think it was
her wish as expressed to her husband.
RUSH: Okay. All right, so you're going to accept the faith of the husband's word--
CALLER: Why wouldn't I?
RUSH: -- and give it the force of a document in court? Well, no, that's fine. I'm trying
to understand how those who want the woman to die, as you just admitted you want her to
die, come to that conclusion? And that helps me in your case.
CALLER: I want the woman to die, basically because I believe she
wanted to die. I have not met anybody who would want to live as she is living.
RUSH: But, you know, we don't know. You're projecting. See, this is the dangerous thing.
CALLER: And you're not?
RUSH: No, I'm projecting nothing. I'm standing up for the sanctity of life. I'm not
presuming to know anything in this.
CALLER: You don't presume that she wants to go or wants to stay?
RUSH: No. I don't presume to know that whatsoever.
CALLER: Well, a great many people that I've heard on your show over the past couple of
days actually do. And maybe you're calling them extremists, and I understand that --
RUSH: Wait, wait, wait, have we had any calls from people who claim they know what Terri
Schiavo wants?
CALLER: No, but you have had
people who claim to know that God needs help with this -- there was a caller the other day
--
RUSH: We've had none of those either, we've had none of those calls either.
CALLER: You haven't?
RUSH: No, no. Maybe you should listen. You know, this show is not what you liberals think
it is. You create these clichés out there, and you think that all these God, you know,
Christians are calling and taking over the country and so forth and none of what you just
described has been said by anybody on this program this week, including me. I don't
presume to know what she wants. I don't presume to know what she ever did want, I don't
know the woman, I don't know any of the people involved in this. All
I've been talking about all week is the concept of life, how precious it is, how we all
only get one, and I've been amazed at the eagerness and the enthusiasm that some like you
have for the woman to die. You've had no compunction whatsoever to just say the
words, "I think she ought to die." That scares me.
Who else did you think ought to die? Next year, two
years from now, what do you think if I should die because you don't like all the
extremists that call my program? You know, where's this going to end up?
I fully supported what the Congress did because Congress has an Article 3 right to do so.
I support another new review of this. We're talking life. What can it possibly hurt? What can it possibly hurt anybody to review the case again, at the federal
level? What harm ensues to anybody? What harm? I don't see the harm that ensues in looking
at the case one more time. Nobody can convince me there's any harm in that. Doesn't
harm Mr. Schiavo, doesn't harm her, doesn't harm her family. Who does it harm? I don't
understand it, why so many people can think that there's something horrible about looking
into this again at a different level, under the guise that maybe due process hasn't been
fully played out here, as the Fourteenth Amendment guarantees each of us. The states
cannot deny any of us life, liberty, or property without due process. And I'm not sure due
process has taken place here. This is a matter of the Constitution to me. As I said in the
program, I'm not a social conservative or a process conservative or anything of the sort,
but I just don't understand what the harm is in letting this woman live. I'll never
understand -- well, sadly, I do understand it. It makes me sick.
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A question for those of you who are our friends on the left, just answer it honestly to
yourself. How many of you want Terri Schiavo to die simply because
some Christian conservatives want her to live? How many of you have rejoiced when had a
death row inmate has been saved because of later investigation into DNA? Do you want Terri
Schiavo to die because some Christian conservatives want her to live? Is that it?
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I told you
yesterday, this is going to be the outcome at the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, and I'll
predict to you now the US Supreme Court will not even hear the case. They don't have much
of a track record of getting involved in these kinds of cases. The case will go to Anthony
Kennedy first, he can decide to do it on his own or decide to take it to the full court,
but I wouldn't hold out. I mean, you can hope, I don't want to take hope away, but my
guess is that what we're now looking at here is making something meaningful of the death
of Terri Schiavo. Some people
are calling this now the Roe vs. Wade of euthanasia, the Roe v. Wade of the euthanasia
movement. I'll tell you just as I said yesterday when I opened the program. There are some
larger issues here that I want to continue to hammer on, but we're going to be getting
into other areas too. In fact, let me just give you the headline so you know what's coming
so you can decide whether or not you want to listen to this program today. Here's headline
number
one, Support Falters in Senate for the Nuclear Option. Headline number
two, Social Security Sellout Feared. Most Americans No Good at Investing, that's another story to make you opposed to Social Security. Then we have the
next one, Report Says bin Laden Eluded US Forces in Tora Bora.
So the military sucks today. The Senate's not going to do the nuclear option; Social
Security reform is falling apart, that isn't going to happen, and the military is horrible
because they let bin Laden get away. And that just barely scratches the surface. All
right, now back to the Schiavo business here for just a second. So the 11th Circuit Court,
three-judge panel, 2-1, not to have a
new hearing in the case. And this 2-1 decision, if this doesn't underscore the importance
of our involvement in these judicial fights in the Senate, nothing will. Every federal judge that has heard this case, that has ignored the will of
Congress and ruled against taking a new look at this case, was appointed by Bill Clinton.
The one judge at the 11th circuit, the dissenting judge who said, 'Follow congressional
intent,' the dissent in this 2-1 ruling was appointed by George H. W. Bush. And I say,
there will be a tremendous amount of meaning, a number of different meanings associated
with the pending death of Terri Schiavo.
So you have here the arrogance of the judiciary. It is deplorable, showing no respect for
Congress, the president, more importantly, us the people. And, by the way, I understand
that many of you in this audience, as has been the case throughout the history of this
program, not so much recently, but in the early days of the program, some of you, even
though you're big fans and you support the vast majority of what you hear on the program,
this got you fit to be tied. I'm hearing from you, I'm reading your e-mails, you're angry,
you think I don't know what I'm talking about. You're worried about the ramifications of
the 2006 and the 2008 elections. And you can go ahead and be mad at me, and if you want to
threaten not to listen anymore, you go ahead and threaten not to listen. If you don't want
to listen, don't listen, I mean that's totally up to you. I'm not going to start pandering
here and I'm not going to start responding to some of these emotional pleas that I'm
getting. I'll tell you what I don't care about. I do not care about public opinion polls
on this case. I have grown sick and tired of watching cable news anchors interview
supporters of Terri Schiavo and say, "But wait, but wait, what about the polls of the
American people which show that the feeding tube ought not be reinserted?" Is this
what we've come to? We're going to poll the American people on who lives and dies? Okay,
let's take a poll, and let's suggest that some of you get killed. I'll bet you have enough
enemies that we could get some of you sentenced to death in a public poll if you want to
go that way. I mean, the efforts being made by the supporters of death in this case to
find backup for what they believe are no less than shuttering to me, they are astounding
and they are a little bit frightening.
It remains unbelievable to me the fact that this gruesome spectacle is happening before
our eyes. Make no mistake about it, folks, there is this relentless effort to see this
poor, innocent girl die. There's no other way you can say it. You can say, 'No,
Rush, it's about the husband's rights and it's about death with dignity." By the way,
have you heard the latest?
Euphoria is what happens when you are starved and dehydrated to death. The LA Times found a doctor. Euphoria, unbridled, unchecked happiness, a
sense of goodness and goodwill all around you as you are being starved and dehydrated, the
LA Times found this guy, he's a doctor in North Carolina. It does, it sounds like the ultimate high. I mean,
here you've just starved yourself, and, you know, dehydrate yourself and experience
euphoria. But this relentless effort to see this poor, innocent girl die, and in dying to
see the heart of her family shattered into a thousand pieces. The passions on this are so
aroused. I can understand the passion for life. I don't understand the passion for
killing. I guess I'm out of touch with some of you people on this. And this argument that
we need to remove the feeding tube and this woman needs to die, "America won't be right until this woman dies." This argument is made from people who would go thermonuclear if food and
water was denied to bin Laden or Zarqawi if they were captured or John Wayne Gacy while he
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It's like we've gone down a rabbit hole in Wonderland. Liberalism has
turned morality wholly on its head.
A friend of mine who is a Catholic wrote a note this morning. "This is
what we mean by the culture of death, old boy. Everything turns inside out and upside
down." So we've peered into the heart and center of liberalism this week. It has
been deeply revealing; it has been stomach-turning at the same time.
But make no mistake, folks, I understand how tough it's going to be to change minds on
something like this.
You know why the culture
of death is fairly entrenched? Because the culture of death resides now in every family's
desire for convenience and pleasure, not to be burdened by some sick family member.
People who are wanting this woman to die are projecting, and they're seeing themselves
somewhere down the road where it was a family member of theirs in similar circumstances
and they would like to just get rid of the person or remove the tube or whatever so that
they wouldn't be burdened and they could move on and they could tell themselves how
they've done something notable and laudable and good and dignified.
They don't want any outsiders
be it the state, be it the federal government, the court interceding at what they want to
do. So in many cases, and I mean it from the bottom of my heart, selfishness has triumphed
here along with all the cop-out arguments that people are making to assuage their guilt
about this.
This is the epitome of selfishness when you boil it all down.
And
some people say, "Well, Rush, you're sounding pretty pessimistic about this. Do you
see this changing?" I do think that there is going to be a day of reckoning on this.
You know, the baby boomers, and as you know, I am a baby boomer but I've not been a big
advocate of my generation because I think a bunch of the baby boomers have been selfish
and "me" centered and me-focused for their entire lives. The baby boomers have
determined every cultural zeitgeist of every decade since they arrived. Zeitgeist, for
those of you in Rio Linda, is the spirit of the times. So it's been the baby boom
generation that has defined the spirit of the times by virtue of their selfishness and
their me-ism and everything revolving around them. Now, the baby boomers are starting now
just to get old enough to understand that down the road they may not be the decider in
this case, but they're getting near the age where they may be the decidee. And even at
this point, the decidees, the future decidees, the baby boomers who are getting close to
that period in their lives where the plug may be pulled on them, "Well, I would want
the plug pulled, I wouldn't want to be an inconvenience, I'd want that plug, I'd pull the
plug myself." Yeah, it's easy to say now before it happens to you. It's easy to say
before you have any choice in the matter. It's easy to say when you have choice in the
matter. So that's where we are on the circumstances today. And I just wanted to put on the
table how I feel about this.
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I was misinformed earlier, and as a result I erred, ladies and gentlemen. A Clinton appointee, judge Charles Wilson appointed in '99,
was the dissenting judge at the 11th circuit and the majority was judge Edward Carnes, a
Bush 41 appointee in '92, and Frank Hull, appointed by Clinton in 1997. So I wanted to correct that.
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I want to
expand just a little bit here on my question to liberals that was in the last 40 seconds
of the previous hour. And that is this -- and I don't want you to call with this, it
doesn't matter -- I just want to ask yourself, I know we have many liberal friends in the
audience listen to this program, take notes, catalog, try to find evidence of hypocrisy
and error and all that, so I know you're out there. So while you're there doing whatever
else you do with this program, ask
yourselves a question, and get as deep within yourself, perhaps even reach in your soul,
as you can when you answer the question. You don't have to answer it for anybody, just
yourself. Why do you want this woman to die? I should say you might have to be honest and
make that admission at first. Fox
News reporting, by the way, that the family is appealing for a rehearing by the full
11th Circuit Court, they want a hearing that would be before it would go to the US Supreme
Court, that's the latest news development on this, but you liberals out there, admit you
want her to die. We just had one caller
say so. The energy on the side of death in this is evident. You want
her to die. Now, why?
Why do you want her to die? That's the question I want you to ask yourselves. What's the
harm in her living through another review? You know, you liberals
out there, whenever a death row inmate is saved because of a technological advancement
such as DNA, death row inmate say for 14, 15 years, and all of a sudden DNA shows he's
innocent, why, we all celebrate, we're all happy, we all want appeal after appeal after
appeal after appeal after appeal after appeal after appeal after appeal after appeal after
appeal after appeal, when it comes to guilty or presumed or even judged-guilty death row
inmates. Then we got DNA, all of a sudden, bammo, shows some of them are innocent, we let
them go, we're all happy about this. But why is such process in this case not warranted?
What did this woman ever do to us? What did she do to you? Are you so desirous of being
able to kill your spouse one day that you want this to set a precedent? Help me out here. Could it be -- and I suspect this is the real answer -- could it be that
you have been so pent up with rage and frustration over the Christians in this country?
You just hated the success of The Passion of the Christ. You hated the outpouring of
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Maybe this
is just payback; you want this woman to die because Christian conservatives want her to
live, and since you don't like Christian conservatives so much you want them to be
disappointed. You want them to find out what it's like to be on the losing side. You want
them to find out what it's like to not get away with everything they want just because
they're Christians. Is that it? Does it really have nothing to do with Terri Schiavo, does
it have solely to do with the fact that you want payback? You're so excited for the
Christian conservatives to lose that even if it requires the death of this woman, you'll
take it? If that's true, if that's the case, if I have nailed it, and as I say, my liberal
friends, I'm on this, I'm on it like white on rice, cold on ice, dots on dice, drugs on
Miami Vice. If that's your motivation, if that's what you want, you are making a huge
political miscalculation and error. You are probably thinking that this is finally going
to end the GOP rule. You are thinking that this finally is the day of your emancipation
from the judgmentalism of those holy roller hayseed hicks with gun racks in the back of
the pickup driving around Mississippi. You probably believe that this is going to end
their dominance because people are going to find out what they're like. Ah. What's going
to happen is that you are participating in a process which is playing out here over days,
which is focusing attention on the fact that there are people who actively, eagerly
support her death and you are happily calling talk shows and writing letters to the editor
and having your spokesman on television talk about this, and you think this is going to
help you in two years politically? All you're doing with this supposed "getting
even" with the Christian right is swelling their ranks. You are going to cause the
biggest payback you have ever seen aimed at you in the next elections. While you think
that you are getting even now, and maybe setting yourselves up for some victory parade in
'06 and maybe '08, the people who proudly, eagerly, wildly, happily clamor for the death
of an innocent woman day after day after day after day over a period of what may
ultimately be a week or two before this is all played out, are not going to end up
winning.
Your smart move would have been to side
with this woman's life. You're trying to figure out why you don't win in the red states,
trying to figure out all these things. All these promises the left made us after the
election, "Well, we're going to have a new policy, Howard Dean,
we're going to make appeals to the people in the red states, we're going to get our values
message right." Is this it? Is this your new values message, my friends, on the left?
If this is your new values message, I would submit not only is it not new, but it's a dead
letter. And it's going to come back to your mailbox with a thing on it says
"insufficient postage." And it's going to come back to haunt you because this is
not the kind of movement, this is not the kind of thing around which a majority political
movement is built in this country, clamoring for death, admitting that you want a woman to
die. No matter how you characterize it, husband's rights, spousal rights, family rights,
federalism versus states' rights, however you want to assuage your guilt about this, the
fact of the matter is that your emotional investment here of being on what you think is a
losing end for so many years to these dreaded Christians, your desire for payback now by
making them lose on this issue, is actually going to only cement your further decline as
the months and days roll on, which is, if I may be honest, one of the reasons I have so
prominently featured the story on this program. Anything that hastens the demise of the
left, of course, I am, within the political arena of ideas -- now, let's be honest, where
I operate -- I'm all for that.
One final story here, this is from Pinellas
Park, Florida, Reuters story, "Conservative Christian groups have called for
mass vigils--" but they are not the only groups that are supporting Terri Schiavo.
"Eleanor Smith of Decatur, Georgia, sat on Tuesday in a
motorized wheelchair in front of the hospice, baking in the sun, with a sign on her lap
reading, 'This agnostic liberal says 'Feed Terri.' Smith, 65, had polio as a child and
described herself as a lesbian and a liberal who had demonstrated before in support
of the disabled and causes supported by the conservative establishment's archfoe, the
American Civil Liberties Union. 'What drew me here is the horror of
the idea of starving someone to death who's vulnerable and who has not asked that to
happen.'" She said, this agnostic liberal, "At this point I would rather have a
right-wing Christian decide my fate than an ACLU member."
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